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I thought the maze was a pain, but this sword fight is worse. I don't know if I will ever make it. Too bad, since I really like the game otherwise.
ReplyDeleteArrgghhh. Came back to try my luck at the sword fighting. Can't get past 4/10 in the training
ReplyDeleteFinally got 10/10. Now I have to fight and defend? Highly doubt this will work out well
ReplyDeleteGrrrr can only get one attack out of three.
ReplyDeleteIt is too bad, this game was great until this
and that's it. Not going to continue. So sad, loved this game til now.
ReplyDeleteLOL! we are not born to fight with swords :D
ReplyDeletesomeone help me i cant find magic coconut :(
ReplyDeletePlease can anyone help!! How do you get rid of the healer?! I have the silver key to open the cabinet, but she won't leave. How do I do this?
ReplyDeletePidders
ReplyDeleteShe won't leave until the baby is born and the baby won't be born until you get the hero's spirit to the official type dude in the spirit realm
Have you spoken to the scribe yet?
@RSA: Yes, spoken to the scribe in the underworld, but don't know what to do next? Where do I go to get the hero's spirit?
ReplyDeletePidders,
ReplyDeleteDid you go into your future?
In your future, you speak to the hero and when he disappears, there is a vial with his spirit in it.
@RSA: Ah haa! I was trying to give the spirit to the healer rather than the spirit guy in the underworld! Thanks! Making progress again now.
ReplyDeletehow do I get rid of thedwarf...and get the frog drunk?
ReplyDeleteHeagirl,
ReplyDeleteput the shovel on the stone under his stool and talk to him to get the smasher fist thingy to see-saw him
frog drunk ? Which frog?
Sorry for being dim, but where's the Evil Castle at the end of the game?! Going round in circles here!
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the club Pudders - we've all been in circles :)
Its across the desert.
Across the desert where?! I've tried going straight ahead, but no luck. I don't want to go east or west for fear of getting totally lost, as I've done before, and had to restart the game as I couldn't find my way out!
ReplyDeletePudders,
ReplyDeleteRemember the statue with the never ending water supply? She has the only thing that the nomad (6 spaces straight north) will trade for the secret to the passage over the desert.
Use the 'dispel' on her
I have been playing this game for two days, I cant get past the training. Very frustrating! when I start something I like to finish. Enjoyable game except for wandering around the desert for hours in the wrong direction lol.
ReplyDeleteRSA,
ReplyDeleteI gave the nomad the never ender water flask ages ago. He's not there any more and I can't remember what he said about the secret passage. How do I get there?
Pudders,
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but I can't remember!
I'll see if I can cross without him - back in a sec
Sorry Pudders !
ReplyDeleteThe only way I can get there now is via the bell
Does Norman have any words of wisdom for you?
Now worst case happened to me, too... Aaargh!!!
ReplyDelete:-(
Tired of sword fight workout, I couldn' pass for hours, I saved game, closed browser & shut off computer... & now all is gone (no game data found on my computer) & dead certainly will not restart, assuming that I couldn't get all the sword fights to the end anyway!
Well, easy come, easy go...
Nevertheless a fun-to-play game.
:-)
Oh no Premier, that is dreadful !!!
ReplyDelete( just waiting for my son to arrive so he can finish off Syluin and I can carry on ).
RSA,
ReplyDeleteIf I ring the bell I have 4 crossroads - the beach at the start, the alcove, Zat and the lava caves. Is it through one of those or am I missing something? Norman's no help any more!
Pudders,
ReplyDelete:) no you aren't. Its Zat that is over the desert.
Now you get the dubious joy of sword fighting for two days.
(Personally, I didn't think Norman was much help anywhere along the line)
Arrghh! So close to the end, if only I could find the Evil Castle! Going to have to give up as I just don't know where else to look. :-(
ReplyDeletePudders,
ReplyDeleteIts in Zat.
Apparently you have to go through the temple first.
Before you do that, you have to fight the wizard so you can get the crystal out of the telescope and open the door to get to the castle.
(the other castle is where you were in the first world)
So where's the wizard?! Not sure how I've got myself so stuck! Thanks for your help though RSA - at least I know where I'm heading... once I find the wizard!
ReplyDeleteTo all new players :
ReplyDeleteGo back one page in the comments (older) and go up about 20 comments from the bottom. Kitkatfox has given a brilliant guide for everyone to follow. I strongly suggest that , if you are stuck, you give it a read.
Pudders,
ReplyDeleteAny time :) I'm happy to help as so many of the EG24 players have dragged me through all these games so often
he is in the pub, first right when through the front gates of Zat.
You are going to have to do the sword training first.
For the sword training you go left straight after entering the gate then turn yourself into a scorpion (which climbs up the side of the building and into the academy).
Hope your reflexes are better than mine - I'm a bit of a fossilised brontosaurus at this
Oh and its the same dude you got the rose from when you got the luck from putting the honey on the alter. Sylluin by name and not very happy with you
ReplyDeleteRSA, I think I've killed the wizard then a while ago (he was in the barrel room behind the little boy in Zat who took the telescope apart). I have 2 wizardy-looking staffs in my inventory - one with a red diamond in the top and one with a red top that's in the shape of a lion's head, and also a grey skull with glowing eyes. Do I need to do anything with these items? I just don't know where the Evil Castle is, or these 2 guards I need to fight.
ReplyDeletePudders,
ReplyDeleteYou are ahead of me, I haven't got that far yet.
I presume you have opened the temple but that is as far as I have got as I'm still trying to kill the silly little snot so that I can get the action figure back.
I think all the folk who have gone that far are now out so your best bet would be to read Kitkatfox's walkthrough and, if you are still lost, some of the other older posts.
The staff with the red diamond was to get into the dwarf village inside the well and there is a key (from the coconut) which hasn't been used yet. I think it must be the crystal which goes on the post in the temple and is raised by the lever
ReplyDeleteThis is crazy I have gone through the whole labyrinth and only have found 4 or the 6 globes ..what and how can I miss them are some of them hidden? some how ?
ReplyDeletediana
ReplyDeleteGo to the older comments. There is a whole map of how to get to them on there
@Pudders It sounds like you already have the head. If so, then you need to go to the castle at the top middle of the game. If I remember correctly, go north from the now missing fountain lady to the mountains. Go up the trail and show the head to the guards at the gate.
ReplyDeleteGood luck!
Hurrah!! After you've got out of the Zat temple via the water tunnel and blown the conch shell to escape the devil, make you way along the beach and head north to the dark mountain. Give the skull object to the guards and they let you into the Evil Castle. Right, finally in... now for some horrid sword fighting!
ReplyDeleteRSA no. What you need for the temple is the prism from the telescope. Not the dwarf's staff
ReplyDelete@Pudders sorry I was too late to help with the directions to the castle. Great job getting there! :)
ReplyDeleteWow that circle thingy to get through the door was a mission and a half
ReplyDelete:) great to have our mentor here, Kitkatfox.
Don't go running off now - we're gonna need you
Me as a mentor? (snicker snicker) You are in real trouble!
ReplyDeleteI'm playing other escape games, but I'm checking back in between.
ok got thru the maze had the colors wrong for sure and now dont understand the mirror and how to use it and turn the wheels to open the door I must just be tired with every step nearly killing me !! LOL
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteThat'll teach you to finish a game and write a WT :)
No seriously, what do I need to do to get the door open in the room with the fire and dropping rotor blades?
I thought and then thinking at this point hurts that you looked in the mirror and somehow used what you see to turn the door wheels to open it ?
ReplyDeleteDiana,
ReplyDeleteYou're on the right path
Turn one of the wheels and then look in the mirror. You will see that you can see what the effect is.
Turn each of the wheels (looking in the mirror between turns) and get each one to not be blocking the entrance
Oh my soul. So long playing this game that I forgot that doors have keys !
ReplyDeleteThank you !! now have coconut maybe with all the posts from before I might be able to stumble through a bit longer :)
ReplyDeleteDiana,
ReplyDeleteDon't forget to drink the green water before you go
Well !!!!!
ReplyDeleteWith all due credit to my son who's misspent youth has served me well in the fights - I have FINALLY finished.
My greatest thanks to all who posted - couldn't have done it without you.
YEEEE HAAAA !
@RSA Momma Cyndi Gongtats!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you mentor Kitkatfox, grasshopper is very pleased with your praise :)
ReplyDeleteMany thanks again. Couldn't have done it without you.
WOW, RSA Momma Cyndi,
ReplyDeleteYou brought home the bacon! Congrats!
8-D
(& kudos to your son, the big sword fighter, LOL!)
Thanks Premier. So sorry you weren't with me at the finish line. We were shoulder to shoulder for so long .... we've gotta get you a boy with a very misspent youth to help out :)
ReplyDeleteLOL, RSA Momma Cyndi,
ReplyDeleteWhen I wait some more years (about 6-10 ;-D), I'll surely will have my daughter helping her gouty (until then ;-D) mommy in such desperate circumstances...!
Oh and for anyone who has been desperate enough to get down this far on the comments:
ReplyDeleteThe door code is : 426135
And open the window using your open spell when the other wizard does his levitation trick
(no clue why such a simple clue took so long to figure out but I guess I won't be the last one struggling)
Well they gotta pay us back somehow Premier :)
ReplyDeleteOff for a well deserved drink :)
@RSA Momma Cyndi good job planning ahead so you would have help with the sword fighting now. You are very good at long term planning, obviously!
ReplyDeleteWell, like so many before me, after two days of playing the game, I've come to the sword fight... I have my diploma, but after an hour trying to fight the other guy, I give up. Too bad really, was a good game up til that!
ReplyDeleteWell this is about the most confusing game I have ever played not that I dont really like it I DO.. just get stuck every step read reread all the comments go page up and then back and now tring to go sideways and well cant get past the witch cant find the dispell or nearly anything after getting the jade statue getting heavy getting the gear and now ? just lost
ReplyDelete@diana do you have the second gear from the mean dwarf?
ReplyDeleteIf not: go to him and put the shovel under his chair. Then talk to him and the fist will drop, flinging. Get the gear. Go right and place the 2 gears. You can then use the magnet to move into the city.
If so: Go into the city and talk to the helpful dwarf. You will then talk to the mole man. After he dies and is eaten, go back to the helpful dwarf. He will give you the mandrake root for the witch.
If none of that advice works, let me know where you are at. :)
ok had to walk away for a bit and just do some heavy barn work to work out frustration did the shovel thing did the heavy statue thing got two gears says they are all up and running when I go to the end where the gears are.. take out my magnet and do not even know what to do it says why mess with it it is up and running or something like that , do I leave the gear area and go somewhere else?
ReplyDeleteYou either go right once, down and then right, or it is in the same room. Sorry I can't remember for sure. :(
ReplyDeleteAt the right side of the screen there will be an overhead conveyor where chunks of metal are being moved. You use the magnet on the metal chunks as they go by.
Hey all, good news. I emailed the developer of this game, and he responded. He said he's received and overwhelming negative response to the swordfighting, and is currently working on a new version which will give you the option to reduce the difficulty or skip it entirely. He expects it to be released by next week, and says "hopefully" it will be backwards-compatible with our current saved games so we won't have to start over. Yay!
ReplyDeleteBeavinator,
ReplyDeleteMany thanks for the update.
It was such a brilliant game and the game maker put so much love and time into it that it was a pity that the sword fight cut it short for so many people.
:) waiting on a visit from the authorities after SMSing my son to say "After training, come around and help me kill this *&$! wizard"
Thx beavinator,
ReplyDeletefor your effort! With that information I even will be brave enough to restart the game, although my saved data are lost :-( - but only, when I'll have enough time to go thru the game at a single blow...!
:-D
Ah Beavinator you are a star. I have tried for three days to get past the sword training. I can hit him once then on the second hit it comes up yes then the usual comes up if this was a real fight you would be dead. Think that must be a bug. I will save the game for now and try again later. Thankyou!
ReplyDeleteThanks Beavinator. I can wait for that long because I loved this game. :D
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ReplyDeleteLOL, I'm really foolhardy, mad, addicted, or totally crazy - just choose!
ReplyDelete:-P
Even if I lost all game data from last time
:-(
& still don't know, if this time, they will be saved properly,
:-S
I am replaying & just flying through the game (even through the maze), because I didn't have to go thru all dialogues & had the maze plan already (see link first page, 11/13/11 2:24 PM)...!
Thanks Beavinator. I'd prefer the skip option, or at least make it so that each fighter gets an equal amount of touches (3 vs 1 is pretty unenjoyable). This is a very clever game that with a few other interface tweaks could be very very good.
ReplyDeleteAlso, a mute button would be greatly appreciated.
ReplyDeleteWoo Hoo I am coming right along , sorta (lol) I think this is a wonderful planned game I did go to the fighting school and frankly I am REALLY bad at that !! found the guy that I thought could open the coconut and he says needs his action figure back .so I am going once again in circles ..going to back track again thru the comments and walkthrough and see what to do, have all spells if in fact there are only 6 .. so I a happy Blessings to all that have put time and effort in all the help so folks like me could be dragged along =}
ReplyDeleteOh my gosh really a no fight mode maybe coming ? this is good news .. im not bad at the actual fighting it is the navigation from mouse back to keys that gets me then I get discombuberated LOL and then klutz around horribly again
ReplyDeleteAt least I managed to win the fight and now i am moving towards evil castle... I don't know if I will be able to beat 2 swordsmen :D
ReplyDeletePlease guys! pray for me... thanks... LOL! ;)
oh! after leaving the boat i entered castle through the well and died. when i restored game, the scene with boat appeared but hero is vanished. can't move forward. awwwwww. :(((
ReplyDeleteoh NOOO this is not good.. so sorry aneel... i go to talk to the guy standing next to the veiled girl and after talking and he says oh your cheek healed then I cant do anything just stand there cant talk to anyone or move out of the room dont have a clue what I am supposed to do ..am I supposed to give him something ? or did I go in there and shouldnt have? In a pickle
ReplyDeleteReally hate the sword fight part, I just got stabbed by the guards.... 3 times at once.. think there might a problem with it? No not kidding. I like th erest of it though. And the help from here has been invaluable.
ReplyDeleteAlso is there other versions or chapters of this game? I like most of it so far.
Beavinator - you are a darling for giving us your report!!!
ReplyDeleteI will be really delighted to try again without the fighty bit.
I did ask if anyone else had a problem with the game crashing at the green-liquid-collecting part.
Will it crash again if I try after the update?
I'm hoping it was just coincidence, you understand.
This is a really fantastic game - I cannot understand why the rating is so low. Hopefully the mark two version will get more stas?
The designer note states that he wanted to revive the spirit of the very early computer [text?] adventure games, which he did, but I don't know how of any which had such a difficult battle/s. Without the fighting, it will have the "feel" of those games completely =D
Thank you, Peter Lemiszki =D
I want to share what i did... I booted a few software which slower the speed of my pc. At the same time i restored game and started fighting. The movements of the opponent were seeming slower. This way I managed to win. Hope it will help somebody out there :D (Is it a cheat?)
ReplyDeleteI so wish I knew that you mean because I am so not computer smart... I don't know any of what you meant I am on dial up and frankly I didn't think it could get any slower..LOL and cheat? I am thinking the only way I could cheat is to get somebody else to do my fighting for me LOL
ReplyDeletewell. diana! I just loaded my processor by running a few applications at once (I have installed some adobe applications like photoshop, illustrator etc.). It also affected the frame rate of this flash game. The affect may be different in different machines, however. The other way is "keep on practicing" :P or wait for an updated version. Best of luck!
ReplyDeleteLOL! I'm so tired that I cannot fight for my own self right now. I wish I could help people out there :D
Hey everyone... im still trying to win the three rounds with the trainer, and everytime i win 1 round i take a long breather.. but the next round i loose and it goes back to zero... the game maker should at least let us keep the round we win.. will help a lot to go on... :D
ReplyDeleteCan someone please tell me how you get the green water? i dont know where to stand to blow the pot over
ReplyDeleteSmiley you have to go through the doors to end up on the platform thats next to the red jug the water pour out of. The door are weird, and it takes time to get the right combination ( not sure what the relationship is with the doors, just keep trying). Then use the bellows to blow the jug, then go back through the doors to get to the area near the funnel where the water falls and fill a flask, and drink it to get the open spell.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the deal with the wizard Mularum or is it the other nutbag? He throws spells that kill me on the spot. I get the freeze spell for the fire balls, but what about for the cloud or bow and arrows? What is going to stop that. Personally Id rather get all stabby with the sword, but that doesn't seem to be an option.
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ReplyDeleteMake sure the statue is in the altar for the fool spell when you are fighting Orco,
ReplyDeleteThe freeze spell, 3 times will defeat the fire balls, target them carefully.
Well, since I couldn't beat Sylvin in a sword fight. I cheated and edited the save file to bypass that fight. I'm finally moving on!
ReplyDelete...and got by the two guards in the castle the same way, as I couldn't beat them either.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to say that this was a wonderful game but I HAD to give up at the battle with the two guards... Impossible for me to pull it through. I don't know if this was necessary
ReplyDelete5 days, 2 save file edits, and I'm finally out! Awesome game without the sword fights!
ReplyDelete@Rookwings, I think it might be rated low because of the sword fight, but also the fact that this is a pretty epic game. I haven't played anything like this since King's Quest and those types of games from Sierra, Westwood, Infocom, et al. I would venture to guess that some people rated it low just because it's so large. I'd also venture to guess that these same people have never played Kings Quest. This is a true adventure game, and I applaud Peter for creating it!
Looks like you can play Kings Quest, and other sierra games online now at sarien.net now if you're bored.
I remember playing Kings Quest for months! I think it took me a year to figure out Zork. Help just wasn't available like it is now. You could've always bought the cheat book in a bookstore, but that seemed like the wrong way to finish the games... You were always on your own to figure things out.
FUN Stuff it was!
how do you get the spellbook
ReplyDeleteYou get the spellbook when you get your first spell. I forget exactly where that is though.
ReplyDeleteASizzle21,
ReplyDelete- SPELL BOOK from spirit of Zoran's father:
- flint/steel in jar in sister house (start)
- firewood behind healer house (N & then E)
- burn bag from Norman (in house with white statue outside, W in forest)
--> put firewood in fireplace in sister house, light with flint/steel & burn bag: father spirit appears
thanks
ReplyDeletewill u give me a walkthrough the other one doesnt make to much sense
how do u kill ogre
ReplyDeletehow do u make moltav cocktail
ReplyDeleteASizzle21,
ReplyDelete- you don't kill ogre, you just have to wait, till he's going to sleep (to see that, you need mirror from maze & eye from door maze first)
- Molotov cocktail: rum bottle from lighthouse, hankerchief from crying man (give him letter from Rose in dungeon)
If you have two flasks filled with water, how do you empty them to get something else?
ReplyDeleteTeresa,
ReplyDeleteto empty flask:
- choose full flask in inventory (Zaron's hair turns blue, means, this item you can use on himself)
- choose chest to the left (now a empty sign appears under Zaron in inventory)
- drag flask; you can give Zaron to drink, or empty flask with sign.
Where and how do you use the music box?
ReplyDeleteI have the music box and the voice of spirits potion. Also, what is the use of turning into a jellyfish?
Teresa,
ReplyDeleteuse music box in underworld at sea of souls to call mole spirit; use VoS-Potion on mole spirit to open coconut.
As I didn't passed yet the sword fight workout, I can't tell you, what jellyfish is for (but surely used after the workout).
OMG! I'm stuck big time!
ReplyDeleteI need the freeze spell to get to the witch, don't I? Where can I get it? And don't say I get it after freeing the slave girl, cause I have no clue how to free her (I think I need to get to the underworld to get the diamonds, but I can't get the before I talk to the witch and to do THAT I need the freeze spell for the frog.....) What to do?
Kainonlainen,
ReplyDeleteThis is a very complex game, you need a lot of stuff to collect & I don't know, what you already have...
You need at last:
- (scorpion) FOOL spell to pass big spider, to get to the witch
- MANDRAKE ROOT: from freed dwarf (give it quickly to witch, she opens passage to underworld)
- 4-digit-box CODE: from first ghost in underworld (SPO2ILERSPO7ILER8SPOI4LER)
- DIAMONDS: from 4-digit-box, give it to freed dwarf to free girl in his cave
- 4-digit BOX: in mattress in right room (2 door view, use OPEN spell) in tavern (use SWORD)
premiere, never mind.. I had all I needed, BUT I thought I was supposed to go through the frog (which kept eating me all the time). Instead I was just supposed to go pass the plant. I didn't know there was another view there.. :D
ReplyDeletehi.. so when is the game maker going to make an easier version of the game fights?? i come back every other day to check on the game.. :(
ReplyDeleteMe too!
ReplyDeleteAnd then I checked the developer's website (www dot studiomeristem dot com). The version there allows you to choose between "normal" and "easy" swordfighting in the Options menu. I'm playing that version now... I have to catch up to where I was first, but can't wait to try the easy swordfights and see the end.
Further info, from an email from the developer:
ReplyDeleteI have created a new version which is now live on my website:
www.studiomeristem.com/games/zaron
In the new version:
- Zaron has three hits
- You can set the swordfighting to "easy" in the options menu, which roughly doubles the amount of time between your opponent's wind up and strike
- If you lose a battle over 20 times in "easy" mode, you will be given the option to skip it
As I said, you can go to www.studiomeristem.com/games/zaron to play the new version right now, but I realize that many of you have a saved game on some other website. If you want to transfer your saved game and be able to play the new version without starting over, please read the steps below:
1) Go to http://www.studiomeristem.com/games/zaron, start a new game and immediately save it
2) Find your old saved game, zarongame.sol, on your computer. You can do this either by running a search, or read the info I took from the web below (these have worked for me but I can't guarantee their accuracy in all cases):
On Windows XP, the flash cookies are stored under C:\Documents and Settings\[Your Profile]\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[Random Name]\[Web Site Path].
On Windows 7/Vista, the flash cookies are stored under C:\Users\[Your Profile]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\[Random Name]\[Web Site Path].
On a Mac, the flash cookies are stored under /Users/****/Library/Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects/
3) Copy "zarongame.sol" from the directory of whatever website you've been playing on, and paste it into the studiomeristem/games/zaron/zaron.swf directory in the #SharedObjects folder on your hard drive (see above)
4) Go to www.studiomeristem.com/games/zaron and click continue game - your saved game should load
Info on the new version:
ReplyDeleteWhether you choose "normal" or "easy" swordfighting, Zaron can now take three hits before dying. "Easy" mode roughly doubles the amount of time between your opponent's wind-up and strike. And if you fail more than 20 times, you will be given the option to skip the battle.
In Kitkatfox's walkthough of Zat, he stated that after you get the head from the tomb, you "Go south and use the fetch to drop the statue
ReplyDeleteLeave through the hole you made"
What statue is he talking about?
@beav- I am too scared to do the steps for transfer of my saved game, i am sure to mess up something important in my computer as well as lose the saved game anyway. So i probably wont try it. i may be speaking too soon since i'm not yet at the fight scene. I have my potion, i entered the city with the desert guy but left since i still have to go to my future and speak with whats his name, so i don't even know where i will encounter my adversaries. Oh well,onward and forward ,time will tell.
ReplyDeleteI have passed training :), but cant get past 0/3 in the real sword fight :(. I did look for the game file on my computer but cannot find it, I really dont understand the path we were told to look for. Any way i was proud to get this far so i guess i will start over on the developers site. Its a really cool game. Another great thing was that i found the Kingsquest games due to everyones chat about it , i have been hoping for years to get to play again i am going to play the re-made versions. Very,very excited about that.
ReplyDeleteI can't get through the spinny puzzle thing in the temple!! Its driving me slowly insane...does anyone have a beautiful walkthrough on this little part?? (I've reset the puzzle 20million times so its not a big deal...). help...:(
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