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@Eric:
ReplyDeleteDon't anagram before using the cipher.
Finally did Hard O. Thank you Mythos! Onto P now
ReplyDeleteMythos, no, just left to right
ReplyDelete@Mythos: I didn't. Obviously I did not use the good things :-(
ReplyDelete@Mythos: forget my previous comment. 2 more eggs found. 1 to go then right ?
ReplyDelete@Eric:
ReplyDeleteYou need two egg paths. There are two eggs per path so a total of 4 eggs. I'm not counting the rotten egg.
Mythos, I dont know what you mean by "path". So far I have B***, F*** and C***. More than 1 to be found then ?
ReplyDeleteOmega,
ReplyDeleteIt's no use. I can't understand the movements on this third pyramid. Normal is Counter clockwise so mirrored means Clockwise. Then it's negative so it goes back to Counter clockwise, but after the second letter it always goes off the pyramid. The other pyramids were easy to understand, but this one doesn't seem to work the same way at all. I have to throw out all the stuff I learned from the first two just to stay in the pyramid on the third one.
@Eric:
ReplyDeleteYou have the start of both paths. B*** is just a rotten egg. Find another egg on each of the other two egg pages you have.
@Mythos: okay then. Will investigate further tomorrow, thanks !
ReplyDeleteMythos, I'll try to help, from the beginning, it's a 2 letter word, is that what you have?
ReplyDelete@Donas:
ReplyDeleteYes, I have a good two letter word, but I can't figure out where to go from there.
Mythos, next is only 1 letter, just 2 options for a word
ReplyDeleteYes, but I can't figure out how to get to any of those two letters from the negative mirrored numbers.
ReplyDeleteThere's not enough spaces to the right to move that far for the first number.
ReplyDeleteSorry, it is CW
ReplyDeleteThen, I get to a letter that works and I'm upside down? I've been there before, but then I can't do the next move without going off the pyramid.
ReplyDeleteMythos, you have better brains, LOL.
ReplyDeleteNu, I've done what it says up here, but I don't get anything readable?
Nu, I applied the written numbers on the title-text. That's okay?
ReplyDelete@arrie:
ReplyDeleteI have no brains left. lol
Nu, yes you are doing it right. Make sure you switch the gibberish each time.
@Mythos, after the second letter you have all the moves were clockwise to reach the third. Don't think of the result as a proper sentence, rather a few proper words put together. Otherwise you'll spend time trying to read something that makes sense.
ReplyDeleteMythos, that sounds right, it is mirrored so first 2 numbers go CW, 3rd is a negative so will go back CCW, you should end up on the bottom row
ReplyDeleteNu.
ReplyDeleteAfter doing it once, you take the outcome and do it a second time on the same numbers and with the same cipher? do I understand that correctly?
Cause I get no words.
@Verito:
ReplyDeleteYes, I moved clockwise each time and ended on a letter that works as a proper word, but the next step after that isn't possible without going off the pyramid. The numbers and letter are upside down where I ended up. I gave up on it making a proper sentence a long time ago.
@Donas: Ohhh, so You do have to read from right to left when they are upside down?
ReplyDelete@Mythos, upsidedown sounds good. Then remember in which case (value) you don't do a step but stay on the same cell.
ReplyDelete@arrie:
ReplyDeleteDo one number at a time. You will get gibberish all the way until the last one.
For Hard-AC, how many letters am I looking for?
ReplyDeleteohh, I now think I understand what you mean, thanks, will try.
ReplyDeleteChael615, 7 for hard AC
ReplyDelete@Donas:
ReplyDeleteBut wasn't a mirrored, negative number CW before? Now it is CCW???
The only way I can think to do it makes me end on the bottom row of the pyramid, but then the next step is impossible.
ReplyDelete@Mythos. That level was confusing so I'm trying to remember the moves, I had to try many times.
ReplyDeleteMythos, sounds like you are in the right place, move CCW
ReplyDeleteCan I just play hang man to come up with the rest of the letters instead? :P
ReplyDeleteNu,
ReplyDeletefound a confusing egg, lol.
Finally hell has frozen over thanks Small for the humongous riddle and to all that helped me through
ReplyDelete@Donas:
ReplyDeleteI can't. The first number moves me all the way to the right, the second doesn't move at all and the third moves me off the pyramid.
Congratulations Mtatt.
ReplyDelete@arrie:
ReplyDeleteYep, now you know that you did it right. Look back at the gibberish along the way to find something else.
Congrats Mtatt. I don't know how any of you understood this pyramid. lol
ReplyDeleteMythos, the moves are right, NW, SW
ReplyDeleteCongrats, Mtatt!
@Donas:
ReplyDeleteThey are all positive numbers and not mirrored. The only number that would move me NW would be the middle number, but it is a 1 so it does nothing. Then, the last number moves me SW off the pyramid.
Mythos, maybe I have you in the wrong place? you have the letters for 12 3 4??? ????
ReplyDeleteYes, the 4th one is on the bottom row?
ReplyDeleteYes.
ReplyDeleteOmega you have from there it is mirrored so clockwise and negative so 8 steps up right to P
ReplyDeleteHard-AC is really frustrating. I have no clue what I am doing. I have tried using an image splitter to cut and paste but I cannot come up with any letters. I have tried rotating and flipping the images in addition to cutting and pasting and I am getting nothing. Can somebody give me a bigger push, please?
ReplyDeleteHard AC make letters from the bits
ReplyDelete@mtatt:
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure I'm in the right place then. My 4th letter does not have mirrored or negative numbers on it.
@Mtatt what bits?
ReplyDeleteAt the third letter you were upside down, with mirrored coordinates, last one was negative?
ReplyDeleteIf so you do (not) move horizontally, then SW, next SE because it's negative (makes the CW rotation).
ReplyDelete@Verito:
ReplyDeleteIf I have the pyramid right side up, then the 3rd letter I have is upside down, the coordinates are also upside down and they are mirrored. the coordinate on the right is negative.
Mythos, sorry, it was hard enough to do the first time, lol. The moves go CW, NE, SE, W Small-tool, will offer a better explanation
ReplyDeleteThat looks correct. The coordinate on the right is the third. So you know what the first move means. I'm trying to recreate too what I did the first time.
ReplyDeleteIt's just confusing to me why the one on the right is the third step. At the start I had to turn my head so the numbers looked the right direction and then do left to right from my point of view. Doing that on the third letter would make opposite of what you are supposed to do.
ReplyDeleteThanks mythos, on Xi now, colouring :) I like doing that in the real world.
ReplyDeleteMythos do you have an account in Nordinho
ReplyDelete@mtatt:
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't.
Can you reach the fourth letter now?
ReplyDelete@Veri:
ReplyDeleteIf it's on the bottom row and upside down, then yes. Negative and mirrored coordinates.
Yes from there to P
ReplyDeleteI think I might just have to stop here. I can see zero logic in any of these movements and I don't want to make you spoil the whole level for everyone else.
ReplyDeleteFinally, like Cream sings "I feel free", but couldn't have made it without lots of help, thanks for that guys.
ReplyDeleteThanks for making this fantastic riddle for us small, really enjoyed it very much (well, except for you know :P )
As Donas said maybe small could explain it better without giving it away
ReplyDeleteMythos, if you can't do it, than don't worry about hints that give away too much. You're good :).
ReplyDeleteI personally will always need more I think.
I just don't know if it's worth it to try to understand it. All the switching between reading from left to right and right to left, The mirrored letters reversing the direction and making the negative do nothing for some reason, and the lack of it making a good sentence make it too much guessing for me. Maybe there are some governing rules to it that make it logical, but I can't see it. Oh well, I enjoyed the riddle while it lasted.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Dutchie.
ReplyDeletethere must be logic in here. Everything else has logic!
ReplyDelete@Mythos, you're close to finishing the whole riddle.
ReplyDeleteyes well done Dutchie
ReplyDeleteThe first three letters you found weren't inverted but the third and fourth are.
ReplyDelete@Veri:
ReplyDeleteI know, but after spending two days trying to make sense of it and then getting so many spoilery hints, I still don't understand anything better than when I started the level. If I can't understand it at this point, then I don't think I ever will.
The → is the positive sense for horizontal, like in math at school, if you move leftwards it's negative. Can you see which are the other two positive senses corresponding to the two other directions? (And thus which ones would be the negative senses for those directions.)
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, I must be confusing you.
ReplyDelete@Verito:
ReplyDeleteI understand the positive and negative stuff. I understood the first two pyramids perfectly. This last one though seems to have a lot of inconsistencies that make it impossible for me to understand.
Moving SW is (+) so from that letter on the bottom where you are now, as your first coordinate is (-), you have to move actually NE, the number of moves that your bottom-most value tells you. (That letter you're in is upsidedown.) Reach where Mtatt said and do the middle coordinate, moving NW is (+) but you have a negative value so move SE, finally move horizontally in the negative sense.
ReplyDeleteI can't count the number of trials that it took me to understand the final pyramid. LOL! I did it and now I'm redoing it and still get confused so you can see it's not you, it's the evil pyramid. No doubt this is the hell path.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, The mirrored numbers mean to start CW instead of CCW. I get that. So it should go left, then NE, and then SW. The problem comes when those numbers are also negative. That should make it switch directions, but for some reason it doesn't? Why does a negative mirrored number still go clockwise?
ReplyDeleteUnless I never did the first one right and ended on the wrong second letter.
ReplyDeleteMythos don't forget about how the triangle is orientated also where the coords are on the triangle
ReplyDeleteIf you move left it means you're moving negatively, like in XY coordinates in math. If you have a coordinate to move in the horizontal direction, if it's a postitive value it's telling you to move to the right, if it's negative it means move to the left. Then you have the CW or CCW part, as that horizontal move is one third of the whole CW or CCW turn.
ReplyDeleteThe first one I turned my head so that the coordinates were upright and then used the coordinates from that perspective. Is that the right way?
ReplyDeleteI then end up on a second letter that is upright, but the coordinates are all negative and mirrored.
ReplyDeleteIf the mirror comes into play for 4th letter then the direction would be SW but it is negative so NE next direction would be NW but is negative so SE next direction would be E but is negative so it is W
ReplyDeleteOn your second letter you had mirrored coordinates that were on the horizontal side of the triangle, so you move horizontally a negative value, i.e. leftwards. Next move in the CW would be NE, given that SW is positive for that diagonal direction, NE is negative so move the number of steps it says. Finally the SE direction for the CW turn, since NW is always positive, going negative is going SE. That's how you reached the third letter?
ReplyDeleteSo for your second letter just read the coordinates in the order you did, the letter is upright. The coords are mirrored so turn CW. Negative values mean the contrary to E, NW or SW (depending where you have it).
ReplyDeleteI finally got it. There is some logic behind it, but I still think there is a lot of guess work in figuring out that logic. My mistake was thinking that positive and negative changed based on whether it was CW or CCW, but the positive and negative directions always stay the same direction.
ReplyDeleteThanks for putting up with me and helping me figure it out. :)
ReplyDeleteWELL DONE!!!
ReplyDeleteDo you have the final answer to the level now?
ReplyDeletewell done and don't worry about spoilers trust me there will me more for this level
ReplyDeleteTrue! LOL!
ReplyDelete@Veri:
ReplyDeleteNo, I'm staring at another egg. lol
The worst of the whole riddle is over though. Basic riddling in that egg. You know what to do with the letters you collected.
ReplyDeleteStill on Hard-AC. I have cut and pasted the letters but I cannot make anything of it. Can somebody give me a push to get me started? Do I have to spin and rotate the letters or just move them in a different order?
ReplyDeleteHard AC some just stack some rotate you have the building blocks to make letters they are all capital by the way each group forms 1 letter
ReplyDelete@Chael615, do you see they are in small groups? Spin, rotate and move to make them take one new shape.
ReplyDeleteWell, I guess I can't even do basic riddling after all that. Stuck on this egg now. lol
ReplyDeleteIf it is the sentence egg then just visit granny
ReplyDeleteI have been doing that, but she won't give me anything. lol
ReplyDeleteIf you use what is in the url it should do try https://anagram-solver.net/
ReplyDeleteAre you talking about the egg with the emoticon sticking it's tongue out? I'm past that one. I am on "the last" egg.
ReplyDeletethe one with 3 eggs in the pyramid if so you have passed 3 parts use them
ReplyDeleteAre you listening to music now or have you passed that too? Not sure where you are.
ReplyDeleteHow though? I've mad a pyramid with them, I've anagrammed them, I've put them all in the url. Nothing is working.
ReplyDeletelook where the arrows are pointing to in the eggs
ReplyDeleteI'm at the egg with the three eggs in the pyramid.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure where you are, what do you see in your level?
ReplyDeleteHard-AC What program can I use to move the letters around? I am working on a MacBook and I have no program that lets me stack letters.
ReplyDeleteHard AC it is not that hard use pen and paper
ReplyDelete@Chael615 I used paper and pencil, nothing fancy. What big letter can you form with two half-size D-shapes?
ReplyDelete@Veri:
ReplyDeleteI'm on the Frank Sinatra level now.
@Mtatt and @Verito @Mythos and @Small-tool and everybody else. Thank you soooo much. That level destroyed my psyche. I was making this way harder than it had to be. I was trying to cut and rotate images using any kind of software I could find. Way overdoing it. That pencil thing was the hint I needed. Thanks again to everyone.
ReplyDeleteKappa, could someone give a hint where to use numbers, tried using them on both words that got me the 2 eggs and left and right of the line up, ftf and lasts. and mixing them up cant seem to find the right mix had some I thought was close but none of them work
ReplyDelete@Mythos, think like a little rebus there and look it up, but notice the middle word of the level name, you know that concept from the beginning of the riddle and you'll use it for future steps in this level.
ReplyDelete@Chael YW
ReplyDeleteOh, I'm terrible at rebus levels. :(
ReplyDeleteNVM tried again and got it
ReplyDeleteNot that bad, make first pic a letter, look up what you get on what you have there in the level to know what comes next.
ReplyDelete@Veri:
ReplyDeleteI don't understand what you mean. The left pic is easy enough, but I don't understand what you said to look up.
Those two words you have, do you hear them?
ReplyDeleteI am still lost. I know the name of the song, but not sure how that fits with the first letter.
ReplyDeleteYou have to sing.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping the rest of the levels would be easy after that pyramid, but I get stuck on every part now. Stuck on egg 1st of 4 eggs.
ReplyDeletenvm I found a second egg now.
ReplyDeleteWell done! Now remember that word in the name of the level.
ReplyDeleteNot ftf anymore...
ReplyDeleteOnly three number grids?
ReplyDelete@Mythos: look somewhere else for another one. (A close look)
ReplyDeleteNow that I have all four of them, I can't find what to do with them.
ReplyDeleteMaybe if you start singing again, it will become clear.
ReplyDeleteI thought I could see what to do clearly, but then it became fuzzy again and all the letters I picked looked like gibberish. Not sure how to pick letters correctly.
ReplyDeleteMu, not sure what I am supposed to do, got egg (doesn't seem to help) I know what they are but that doesn't seem to help, tried other names not all have one, can someone give me a hint, I don't know what else to google
ReplyDelete@robin:
ReplyDeleteYou are right about the other names. They do all have one.
Maybe the gibberish can be read differently. You've almost found the last needle in the haystack.
ReplyDeleteFinally finished. Those last few levels were a doozy. Thanks for all the help everyone. I'm finally free. :)
ReplyDelete@Mythos: Congratulations on finishing!! :)
ReplyDeleteCongratulations to all the others who have finished too. I hope you all had as much fun as I did!
Thanks. I couldn't have done it without all of the help given here. :)
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Mythos! You're out of the four paths of torture!
ReplyDeleteCongrats Mythos, well done :)
ReplyDelete@Vanja and Eric - if you got the basic egg, take that to the most common cipher and you should get two words. Each of those is the first egg on an egg path (there are two egg paths). You'll find something more on each egg to guide your steps.
ReplyDeleteHi all! I'm stuck on Hard-Q. I solved the chart and have read earlier hints, but I have no clue how to find the missing country.
ReplyDeleteCongrats, Mythos!
ReplyDeleteHuge congratulations to Donas, Ceebee, Verito, Dutchie, mtatt100 and Mythos and all other players who have been to hell and back. WOW. Brilliant!
ReplyDeleteHard Q. check on a map where the countries are located, you will find one missing.
ReplyDeleteAh, OK! Thanks, Dutchie. I Googled the four parts together and I get Znevn Gurerfn bs Fcnva. I've tried some variations of that as the answer, but they don't work. Was my Googling wrong? :/
ReplyDelete@ BlackFiresong: That's not his mother :)
ReplyDeleteHard Q-That is the wrong person double check your missing items
ReplyDeleteHaha, d'oh! I thought that was his mother, but she's his spouse, lol. On Control egg now and not sure how to proceed.
ReplyDeleteI'm way back on med XXIII, got two eggs (and will claim being busy rather than being dense). I jsut don't know how to whip that fellow into shape. I have read hints, but am clearly misunderstanding. Now that we are so far down the track, any chance of a shove rather than a general/gentle hint? I'm wearing a helmet and protective gear, so feel free to really give me a push. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteControl egg use the info on your grid that you completed
ReplyDeleteJust finished the hard path. On to go raise some hell now! Thanks to everyone for helping me to get this far!
ReplyDeleteThanks, mtatt. I found old hints that helped me figure it out (thank you to robin for asking all the right questions!). Now on R and genuinely stumped. Can't see any hints, so it must be easy, but I have noooo clue how to start. I tried counting the words in each sentence, but that wasn't helpful.
ReplyDelete@clio_rose - If you've got the first egg (from surnames), and the second egg (from real surnames), then try and use the numbers on the level as a way to pick letters from the real surnames. That should give you a third egg.
Well done, Chael! That's amazing! :D
ReplyDeleteThank you BFS. I had the third egg, but didnt know how to whip it. Duhh me. Forgot the first rule and was so convinced of red and green lines and deleting etc. On to XXIV now. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHard-R - is it to do with the recurrences of a certain word that rhymes with pond?
ReplyDeleteHard R. Try the most basic riddle method, even if you think that's not it :)
ReplyDelete@BFS Just follow the first rule of riddling. And visit your gramma sometimes, even if you don't think she wants you to!
ReplyDeleteA new finisher on the regular riddle.
ReplyDeleteCongrats, very well done. Thanks for playing.
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What is the answer Level 3 can you count us?
ReplyDeleteI have been staring at hard level S for two days.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how and where to make a move. Are the directions hidden in the text above the grid?
Thanks, dutchie and Chael! That was the first thing I tried, but I thought it couldn't possibly be an avenue worth pursuing. D'oh!
ReplyDeleteAm confused by Hard-S - I'm starting on the first letter of "jurer" ba gur frpbaq-ynfg ebj (which I think is the seventh first letter), and I'm following the dirEctioNS in the first line of text (after the headline), but I'm stumped. Do I need to go to Granny? Also, if two directions are next to each other, do I combine and go diagonally? Or only NEWS?
@Tinned Veg - I'm equally confused! I think I have the right starting point, but I'm stabbing in the dark with regards to the directions...
ReplyDeleteHard R. I found two rotten eggs, bu I can't find tft 7 letters. Pls help.
ReplyDelete@Vanja - Think the "first" rule of riddling. Totally back to basics. Don't worry if you don't see vowels - it'll still work out at Granny's!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the answer to Can you count us? Level 3 on Easy Path
ReplyDeleteHard S, You need another place to start. The text tells you that 'the seventh first is where your route starts'. Try to figure out what the 7th first can be. Following directions is a good thought.
ReplyDeleteHard R, I have 7 letters "cuueflg". Correct or not?
ReplyDelete@Unknown: The title instructs you directly on what to do. Look at the answers you got to get to the "can you count us" egg and count the number of letters in each and convert those numbers to get different letters. There should be no need to anagram. For the first animal, use the long form of its name.
ReplyDelete@dutchie: Is my start point wrong? I'm starting at the first letter of "jurer" ba gur frpbaq-ynfg ebj.
ReplyDeleteUnknown. When playing riddles, the general rule is to give hints and never spoilers. What is it you don't understand. Please be general so there is no spoiling for future players.
ReplyDelete@Vanja - that doesn't seem right to me. Go sentence by sentence. I think most of your letters are right, but the first one you've listed is wrong.
ReplyDelete@BFS yes, wrong place. Find the 7th first.
ReplyDelete@BlackFiresong, Thanks, was my mistake.
ReplyDelete@dutchie: Damn. I swear I've tried everything. :/ Should what I get spell something out in order? Or do I need to visit Granny?
ReplyDelete@BFS think Alphabet
ReplyDelete@dutchie
ReplyDeleteI think I got the starting point. But how to know what is the next step?
@Tinned Veg: It's to do with the text above the grid. 10 words = 10 directions to follow. And the number of letters of each word is important.
ReplyDelete@dutchie: Thank you so much!!! Alphabet hint did it for me.
Back again in the struggle on Hard-O. Have 2 ingredients for my lunch. Question: are there only 2 of them or more ?
ReplyDelete@BFS
ReplyDeleteThank you so much. Got it finally.
@Eric
ReplyDeleteThere are 5 eggs in this level. Eggs also have eggs.
@Tinned V.: I meant ingredients for the omelette ;)
ReplyDelete@Eric
ReplyDeleteYou need 4 ingredients to make omelette. Ask granny for more.
@Eric: Hard-O - there's an initial egg, then two paths of two each. So total five (but the very obvious initial one isn't really important). You need to get both the eggs on both the paths to get the final answer for the level.
ReplyDeleteSomebody please throw me a hint for Hard-T - my brain is starting to go mushy from all this riddling, haha. I understand the basis of the title (I think), but do I have to apply it on that whole long text? I can't see how that would work. I can see that there are hints towards the end about "consecutive strings" and "middle", but I don't really know how to apply those.
BFS, hard T, the hints you mentioned are as easy as aBc
ReplyDelete@Tinned & BFS: then I must be on the final step and granny doesnt help... How the hell can I add these 2 "things" to what ? Am stuck.
ReplyDeleteMythos, congrats on finishing, Just a Bit of Grit needed! :D
ReplyDelete@Donas - Thanks! But do I have to pick that from every word in the text? What about the ones with even numbers of letters that don't have a definitive middle?
ReplyDelete@Eric: It's a multi-word answer. Granny the words from the two egg paths together, and then add the things they tell you to add in such a way that the words all make sense together.
BFS, yes, all the text, none should have more than 3
ReplyDelete@Donas: So I pick letters from each word and exclude some as indicated by the title? That's still wayyyy too many letters to granny. Am I going wrong somewhere? Feel like I'm missing something really obvious!
ReplyDeleteBFS, you need 9 things, that should help you see something :)
ReplyDelete@Donas - thank you! But I'm afraid I'm still stumped. I tried picking the middles of each sentence and the title and subheading and got more than 9 letters (even after cutting NEWS), and Granny doesn't give me any results. :(
ReplyDeleteBFS, it isn't sentences, look for "consecutive strings"
ReplyDelete2000 !! comments time for a new page!
ReplyDeleteHello.
ReplyDeleteXi.
Does the egg tell me to divide the little things into letters?
Xi, egg tells you to read between the lines after you did what url says.
ReplyDeleteXi.
ReplyDeleteThank you. Do you get 10 letters in total?
Some are upon each other, that makes it hard to read.
My, it looks like such a simple level!
Xi, yes 10 letters. A space between the lines will help, try to draw letters in Paint.
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